The healthcare system wastes up to $800 billion a year.
So no, the Congress cannot fix healthcare.: A corrupt Congress designs an easily corruptible system. Corruption works the same way everywhere, and America can't oppose it abroad while it prevails at home.
by John Kozy
That the government of the United States should be in league with corrupt foreign governments should be no surprise. Remember the dictum, birds of a feather flock together? The government of the United States is as corrupt as any of its "allies," which becomes more and more evident every day. The only difference is where the corrupting money comes from. America's allies get it from the United States; America gets it from its corporations. But therein lies a story that has, to my knowledge, never been accurately told.
Consider healthcare in America, for example.
CBS' 60 Minutes aired an exposé on Sunday October 25 on Medicare fraud, estimating that it now amounts to about $60 billion a year, and I have no reason to dispute that figure. Medicare fraud has increased because criminals have found a way to get substantial amounts of money with little effort and little chance of being detected. According to the FBI, "All you have to do to get into this business is rent a cheap storefront office, find or create a front man to get an occupational license, bribe a doctor or forge a prescription pad, and obtain the names and ID numbers of legitimate Medicare patients you can bill the phony charges to. . . . Once the crooked companies get hold of the patient lists, usually stolen from doctors' offices or hospitals, they begin running up all sorts of outlandish charges and submit them to Medicare for payment, knowing full well that the agency is required by law to pay the claims within 15 to 30 days, and that it has only enough auditors to check a tiny fraction of the charges to see if they are legitimate."
Of course, the Congress designed this program. I suspect the requirement to pay claims within 15 to 30 days was inserted at the behest of the medical community whose interest is in getting paid rather than in combating fraud. The doctors who are bribed or have poor security procedures to safeguard patient records are members of this community. The community has an enormous influence over Congress. AARP has an editorial in its November, 2009 issue about the excessive charges to medicare for powered wheelchairs, that states, "Congress has blocked attempts to impose competitive bidding." So a corrupt Congress designs an easily corruptible system. As an ancient Chinese proverb says, officials don’t punish those who send gifts.
Maggie Fox writes that the healthcare system wastes up to $800 billion a year. She cites (1) the paper-based system of patient recordkeeping, (2) unnecessary care, (3) fraud, (4) kickbacks and other scams, (5) administrative inefficiency and redundant paperwork, (6) medical mistakes, (7) non prevention of preventable conditions, (8) inefficient hospital and physician billing and administration, and (9) the use of emergency rooms for routine treatments because of a shortage of primary care doctors (and, I suspect, the lack of access many in America have to routine medical care). Unfortunately she quotes Robert Kelley, vice president of healthcare analytics at Thomson Reuters, as having said, "The good news is that by attacking waste we can reduce healthcare costs without adversely affecting the quality of care or access to care." But I doubt it.
The America healthcare "system" is a fractured, distributed, hodgepodge of thousands of private companies made up of physicians, clinics, hospitals, pharmacies, pharmaceutical companies, equipment manufacturers, and insurance companies. All of these entities have their own policies, procedures, and practices, and attempts to get these various companies to voluntarily spend the money to bring about an efficient, uniform system are bound to fail, especially since the waste in the system contributes to their incomes, and any attempt by the Congress to impose changes on the industry would certainly fail because the industry would use its influence on the Congress to oppose it. So any claim that the waste will be wrung from the system is delusional.
But despite the various and sundry ways the industry operates, it, like all other industries, does a number of common things. In general, businesses sell products and services to generate income to fund overhead, salaries, profits, and marketing. The money for all of these is built into the prices of those products and services. In other words, the money comes from consumers.
Consider marketing, for instance. People are led to believe that the "free" television they watch is paid for by the sponsoring companies. But when the money is followed to its source, one realizes that the money comes from the people who buy products and services from the sponsoring companies; the money for advertising is built into the prices of the products and services sold. So although sponsoring companies are said to fund "free" television, in reality, consumers are funding it and it is not free. People pay for it with every purchase they make. So when companies object to recording devices that eliminate commercials, they are obfuscating reality. Since the viewers are the ones who supply the money spent by companies on commercials, why shouldn't the viewers have the ability to watch the sponsored programs without having to watch the commercials?
This circumstance, of course, reveals the fallacy in the claim of orthodox economists that competition reduces prices. There is, of course, no empirical evidence to support this claim. In fact, the evidence refutes it. Competition in contemporary society requires marketing. Marketing is expensive. The expense must be added to prices. So competition necessarily increases prices. The argument is irrefutable. The reverse is mathematically impossible.
But something even more insidious is involved, and to my knowledge, it has never been pointed out. Companies not only engage in the practices enumerated above—overhead, salaries, profits, and marketing—they also lobby the Congress, contribute to political campaigns, fund ideological institutions, and buy political advertising. And where does the money for all of this corporate spending come from? Why consumers, of course.
The insidiousness lies in this circumstance: Corporations use this money to influence the Congress to pay no heed to what the people need or want and even to oppose the enactment of beneficial public programs. But it is the people who supply the money the corporations use to buy the influence, which puts the public in a paradoxical situation that can only be likened to requiring the condemned to purchase their own nooses. That is how corrupt the American government has become.
So no, the Congress cannot fix healthcare. For exactly the same reasons cited above, the Congress can't fix anything. It can no more fix America than the Karzai government can fix Afghanistan. Corruption works the same way everywhere, and America can't oppose it abroad while it prevails at home.
Jefferson wrote, "The time to guard against corruption and tyranny, is before they shall have gotten hold on us. It is better to keep the wolf out of the fold, than to trust to drawing his teeth and talons after he shall have entered." If Jefferson is right, it is far too late to save America by fighting corruption. America is lost! It shall suffer the fate predicted by Amos Bronson Alcott when he wrote, "A government, for protecting business only, is but a carcass, and soon falls by its own corruption and decay."
John Kozy is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global Research Articles by John Kozy
Diagnose This:
Physicians may not overly concern themselves about the bribery they allow to take place, but we as consumers must. Gross asks, "What could be better than stopping the waste of $100 billion (at the very least) in medical, dental and pharmaceutical fraud, and using the money for any good purpose, including lower federal taxes for all? And in the process, cleansing the stain that dishonest doctors have cast on the profession and, by extension, on their honest colleagues?"
In other words, corrupt doctors actively try not to question themselves about it , thereby perpetuating their state of self- deception. ...There are a lot of corrupt doctors out there. Corrupt doctors should have their licences taken away from them. One of the doctors said essentially that a corrupt society deserved corrupt doctors (he did not add, like himself)
Physicians may not overly concern themselves about the bribery they allow to take place, but we as consumers must....One big question remains unanswered: How can doctors accept these bribes and look in the mirror afterward?
Physicians and bribery: a closer look at this common medical industry practice
Kickback scams are omnipresent in medicine. Dishonest and ingenious doctors can take in sums much greater than $100,000 a year. "Most physicians do not make decisions about which drug to use on the basis of scientific research or cost. They base their decision almost entirely on which drug is the most popular choice of their colleagues." How would you like a bonus of $100,000 per year on top of your already outrageously high salary?
by: Dani Veracity, citizen journalist
More on the corrupt health care system in the United States. MOST doctors make the gangsters and the bank robbers of the 1930s look like alter boys. And they think pro bono ( Latin meaning "for the public good"). is an Italian Bocce (or Bocci, or Boccie) champion. That is not to say that there are not some great and decent and honest men and women in medicine, however, they are rare. Good luck in finding them.
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:19:10 -0800 (PST), Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com> wrote:
>Re: Blame the doctors for billing for services, procedures, and/or >supplies that were not provided. >"Insurance fraud constitutes a $100->billion-a-year problem." >Crisis of America's Healthcare System >The healthcare system wastes up to $800 billion a year.
You have no idea what you're taling about do ya?
Why did Buckwheat waste an entire year doing NOTHING about waste and fraud?
> The healthcare system wastes up to $800 billion a year.
> So no, the Congress cannot fix healthcare.: A corrupt Congress designs > an easily corruptible system. Corruption works the same way > everywhere, and America can't oppose it abroad while it prevails at > home.
> by John Kozy
> That the government of the United States should be in league with > corrupt foreign governments should be no surprise. Remember the > dictum, birds of a feather flock together? The government of the > United States is as corrupt as any of its "allies," which becomes more > and more evident every day. The only difference is where the > corrupting money comes from. America's allies get it from the United > States; America gets it from its corporations. But therein lies a > story that has, to my knowledge, never been accurately told.
> Consider healthcare in America, for example.
> CBS' 60 Minutes aired an exposé on Sunday October 25 on Medicare > fraud, estimating that it now amounts to about $60 billion a year, and > I have no reason to dispute that figure. Medicare fraud has increased > because criminals have found a way to get substantial amounts of money > with little effort and little chance of being detected. According to > the FBI, "All you have to do to get into this business is rent a cheap > storefront office, find or create a front man to get an occupational > license, bribe a doctor or forge a prescription pad, and obtain the > names and ID numbers of legitimate Medicare patients you can bill the > phony charges to. . . . Once the crooked companies get hold of the > patient lists, usually stolen from doctors' offices or hospitals, they > begin running up all sorts of outlandish charges and submit them to > Medicare for payment, knowing full well that the agency is required by > law to pay the claims within 15 to 30 days, and that it has only > enough auditors to check a tiny fraction of the charges to see if they > are legitimate."
> Of course, the Congress designed this program. I suspect the > requirement to pay claims within 15 to 30 days was inserted at the > behest of the medical community whose interest is in getting paid > rather than in combating fraud. The doctors who are bribed or have > poor security procedures to safeguard patient records are members of > this community. The community has an enormous influence over Congress. > AARP has an editorial in its November, 2009 issue about the excessive > charges to medicare for powered wheelchairs, that states, "Congress > has blocked attempts to impose competitive bidding." So a corrupt > Congress designs an easily corruptible system. As an ancient Chinese > proverb says, officials don’t punish those who send gifts.
> Maggie Fox writes that the healthcare system wastes up to $800 billion > a year. She cites (1) the paper-based system of patient recordkeeping, > (2) unnecessary care, (3) fraud, (4) kickbacks and other scams, (5) > administrative inefficiency and redundant paperwork, (6) medical > mistakes, (7) non prevention of preventable conditions, (8) > inefficient hospital and physician billing and administration, and (9) > the use of emergency rooms for routine treatments because of a > shortage of primary care doctors (and, I suspect, the lack of access > many in America have to routine medical care). Unfortunately she > quotes Robert Kelley, vice president of healthcare analytics at > Thomson Reuters, as having said, "The good news is that by attacking > waste we can reduce healthcare costs without adversely affecting the > quality of care or access to care." But I doubt it.
> The America healthcare "system" is a fractured, distributed, > hodgepodge of thousands of private companies made up of physicians, > clinics, hospitals, pharmacies, pharmaceutical companies, equipment > manufacturers, and insurance companies. All of these entities have > their own policies, procedures, and practices, and attempts to get > these various companies to voluntarily spend the money to bring about > an efficient, uniform system are bound to fail, especially since the > waste in the system contributes to their incomes, and any attempt by > the Congress to impose changes on the industry would certainly fail > because the industry would use its influence on the Congress to oppose > it. So any claim that the waste will be wrung from the system is > delusional.
> But despite the various and sundry ways the industry operates, it, > like all other industries, does a number of common things. In general, > businesses sell products and services to generate income to fund > overhead, salaries, profits, and marketing. The money for all of these > is built into the prices of those products and services. In other > words, the money comes from consumers. > But something even more insidious is involved, and to my knowledge, it > has never been pointed out. Companies not only engage in the practices > enumerated above—overhead, salaries, profits, and marketing—they also > lobby the Congress, contribute to political campaigns, fund > ideological institutions, and buy political advertising. And where > does the money for all of this corporate spending come from? Why > consumers, of course. <snip> > Jefferson wrote, "The time to guard against corruption and tyranny, is > before they shall have gotten hold on us. It is better to keep the > wolf out of the fold, than to trust to drawing his teeth and talons > after he shall have entered." If Jefferson is right, it is far too > late to save America by fighting corruption. America is lost! It shall > suffer the fate predicted by Amos Bronson Alcott when he wrote, "A > government, for protecting business only, is but a carcass, and soon > falls by its own corruption and decay."
> John Kozy is a frequent contributor to Global Research. Global > Research Articles by John Kozy
> Diagnose This:
> Physicians may not overly concern themselves about the bribery they > allow to take place, but we as consumers must. Gross asks, "What could > be better than stopping the waste of $100 billion (at the very least) > in medical, dental and pharmaceutical fraud, and using the money for > any good purpose, including lower federal taxes for all? And in the > process, cleansing the stain that dishonest doctors have cast on the > profession and, by extension, on their honest colleagues?"
> In other words, corrupt doctors actively try not to question > themselves about it , thereby perpetuating their state of self- > deception. ...There are a lot of corrupt doctors out there. Corrupt > doctors should have their licences taken away from them. One of the > doctors said essentially that a corrupt society deserved corrupt > doctors (he did not add, like himself)
> Physicians may not overly concern themselves about the bribery they > allow to take place, but we as consumers must....One big question > remains unanswered: How can doctors accept these bribes and look in > the mirror afterward?
> Physicians and bribery: a closer look at this common medical industry > practice
> Kickback scams are omnipresent in medicine. Dishonest and ingenious > doctors can take in sums much greater than $100,000 a year. "Most > physicians do not make decisions about which drug to use on the basis > of scientific research or cost. They base their decision almost > entirely on which drug is the most popular choice of their > colleagues." How would you like a bonus of $100,000 per year on top of > your already outrageously high salary?
> by: Dani Veracity, citizen journalist
> More on the corrupt health care system in the United States. MOST > doctors make the gangsters and the bank robbers of the 1930s look like > alter boys. And they think pro bono ( Latin > meaning "for the public good"). is an Italian Bocce (or Bocci, or > Boccie) champion. That is > not to say that there are not some great and decent and honest men and > women in medicine, however, they are rare. Good luck in finding them. > ...
Doctors, hospitals, politicians, and the other bureaucrats involved look out for their own interests first and foremost. The fraud and waste in healthcare is no accident; it's a deliberate attempt by these people to look out for their own interests. It would take a book to document all the overcharges in hospital bills (like charging $1000 for a toothbrush and $140 for a tylenol tablet, as a recent documentary reported).
Yes the NBC Nightly News also reported that $ 60 billion a year is stolen from Medicare every year in America.
That's more than the entire economy of many countries.
With that kind of money involved this problem will never be solved. For every crooked fake doctor's office they shut down there are hundreds more waiting to take their place.
This reminds us that the politicians cannot solve real problems. When that kind of money is being stolen annually this indicates that the system has failed in my opinion.
They'll eventually get some schmuck to testify before congress on TV and start ranting and raving at them like they did with the so called Wall Street meltdown.
This however distracts us from the real issue which is the people in the government have no idea what the root causes of these issues are or how to solve them.
It's very discouraging to struggle to try to survive when this kind of money is being stolen. And that's just outright fraud. Who knows where many other billions are disappearing in many other ways.
If this has been going on for say 10 years that's $ 600 billion dollars taken out of the economy tax free. No wonder America is going broke.
What's the illegal drug market in the U.S. worth today ? Another $ 100 billion or so a year ? There's a lot of oxy contin tablets out there. They seem to make their way to the street very easily. The U.S. is drowning in an endless sea of cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, etc..
Then they tell people to text $ 10 to help the people in Haiti. I wonder what $ 60 billion could do in Haiti.
> Yes the NBC Nightly News also reported that $ 60 billion a year is > stolen from Medicare every year in America.
> That's more than the entire economy of many countries.
> With that kind of money involved this problem will never be solved. > For every crooked fake doctor's office they shut down there are > hundreds more waiting to take their place.
> This reminds us that the politicians cannot solve real problems. When > that kind of money is being stolen annually this indicates that the > system has failed in my opinion.
> They'll eventually get some schmuck to testify before congress on TV > and start ranting and raving at them like they did with the so called > Wall Street meltdown.
> This however distracts us from the real issue which is the people in > the government have no idea what the root causes of these issues are > or how to solve them.
> It's very discouraging to struggle to try to survive when this kind of > money is being stolen. And that's just outright fraud. Who knows > where many other billions are disappearing in many other ways.
> If this has been going on for say 10 years that's $ 600 billion > dollars taken out of the economy tax free. No wonder America is going > broke.
> What's the illegal drug market in the U.S. worth today ? Another $ > 100 billion or so a year ? There's a lot of oxy contin tablets out > there. They seem to make their way to the street very easily. The > U.S. is drowning in an endless sea of cocaine, heroin, > methamphetamine, etc..
> Then they tell people to text $ 10 to help the people in Haiti. I > wonder what $ 60 billion could do in Haiti.
> Jeff
At current rates, 540,000 Americans will die over the next 12 years simply because they can't afford insurance. Will you be one of them?
It is virtually impossible to mount an honest defense of the current U.S. health care system. We, the people, must find a way to break corporate America's current stranglehold over the legislative process
Corrupt U.S. Health Care System Far More Deadly Than Previously Realized New study finds 45,000 Americans die each year for lack of health care... Guest editorial by Ernest A. Canning
In "ObamaCare: Right Diagnosis, Wrong Prescription" I noted that it was virtually impossible to mount an honest defense of the current U.S. health care system. Doing so would amount to suggesting that the obscene wealth of a few health care insurance company CEOs and their Wall Street investors has a greater social value than the lives of 18,000 of our fellow citizens whom the current system annually sentences to death simply because they are too poor to purchase insurance coverage.
Today, as I mulled over the legislative obscenity that Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) and a former vice president of WellPoint spent months preparing --- an insurance carrier wish-list that contains no public option, no means for controlling costs or abuse; a measure that does not merely protect but expands the already obscene wealth of the few by mandating that every citizen purchase insurance, with massive subsidies flowing into carrier coffers --- I learned that I was wrong...
The 18,000 figure I relied upon was based on a now outdated 2002 study performed by the National Academy of Science's Institute of Medicine. Today, there is a new Harvard University study which has been released by the American Journal of Public Health. Our corrupt and dysfunctional system does not sentence a mere 18,000 Americans to death each year because they can't afford coverage. Our system kills close to 45,000 each year due to lack of coverage --- 45,000 in addition to the still uncounted numbers who die when carriers refuse to authorize vital procedures.
To fully appreciate the enormity of that number, consider: Direct U.S. military involvement in Vietnam commenced when President Kennedy sent several thousand advisers in 1963. It ended twelve (12) years later when Saigon fell in 1975. During that twelve year span a total of 58,000 American service personnel lost their lives.
At current rates, 540,000 Americans will die over the next 12 years simply because they can't afford insurance.
I'd ask, "enough of a trigger, Mr. President?" But the truth is, as forcefully noted by Dr. Stephanie Woolhandler, a Harvard University Professor involved in the latest study, even the so-called "public option" would not come close to resolving the crisis in American health care. Single-payer (Medicare for All) is the only solution.
Where I depart from Dr. Woolhandler is in her faith that a large enough number of e-mails and calls can pressure Congress to do the right thing.
At this point the democracy deficit is so great that there appears to be only two ways the super majority of Americans who desire a single- payer system may be able to effectuate meaningful change. One would be a massive civil disobedience campaign at levels used by Ghandi to bring the British empire to its knees, perhaps on the scale of a national general strike. The other, also entailing direct, non-violent action, would be for progressives both inside and outside the Democratic Party to come together to jointly target each corporate sell out in Congress for replacement.
No doubt, the enormity of either approach is daunting, but, as Howard Zinn observed in A Power Governments Cannot Suppress:
There is a basic weakness in governments, however massive their armies, however vast their wealth, however they control images and information, because their power depends on the obedience of citizens...When the citizens begin to suspect they have been deceived and withdraw their support, government loses its legitimacy and its power. I would venture that the Founding Fathers of this nation would find the notion of a government willing to sacrifice the lives of so many to secure the wealth of so few as contrary to the very principles upon which they fought the American Revolution.
The Declaration of Independence does not merely describe rights to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" as "inalienable," but adds:
That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
As daunting as the task may be, we owe it to those who came before us and to our posterity to finally say, enough! We, the people, must find a way to break corporate America's current stranglehold over the legislative process. Our political elites must come to realize that we will neither support nor obey a leadership that would sacrifice our very lives to satisfy the greed of the privileged few. If they will not, they must step aside. Such is the guiding principles of our American democracy.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7424 * * * Ernest A. Canning has been an active member of the California state bar since 1977. Mr. Canning has received both undergraduate and graduate degrees in political science as well as a juris doctor. He is also a Vietnam vet (4th Infantry, Central Highlands 1968).
The 9/18/09 'Democracy Now!' interview of Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, professor of medicine at Harvard University and a co-founder of Physicians for a National Health Program, follows below... http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7424
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:40:16 -0800 (PST), Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com> > wrote:
> >At current rates, 540,000 Americans will die over the next 12 years
> Which is 0.18% or 99.82% of Americans NOT DYING "simply because they > can't afford insurance" over 12 years.
> >New study finds 45,000 Americans die each year for lack of health > >care...
> Which is 99.985% of Americans NOT DYING "each year for lack of health > care..."
> We have more important problems than your Communist perversion to have > someone else pay your bills for you.
We have more important problems: Stopping medical fraud Honesty is not the best policy. It is the only policy.
Fraud is a way of life in the medical industry. 3 Miami-Dade doctors arrested-$10 million Medicare fraud scheme! More Than 30 Arrested in Nationwide Medicare Fraud Sweep ... 26 Arrested in Three States in Medicare Fraud Schemes - .. 3 more Miami-Dade doctors arrested in Medicare - Local News: .. Feds Crackdown On Medicare Fraud In Miami Federal authorities arrested more than 30 suspects, including doctors Doctors, assistants found guilty in Medicare fraud trial ... Several home health operators and several doctors were arrested There's Medicare and Medicaid fraud committed by organized Russian- Armenian crime circles. .. Miami Serves As Model In Medicare Fraud Crackdown | KOSU Radio Miami-Dade doctors and two medical assistants of plotting to submit millions of dollars in bogus bills to Medicare Over the past five years, about 60 people charged with Medicare fraud have fled Sacramento Division: Press ...Three Arrested for Their Roles in Medicare Fraud Scheme News Stories: Florida Medicare Fraud Former President and Owner of Complete Medical Center, Inc. Arrested on Health Care ... Feds catch Medicare-fraud fugitive in Mexico Feds arrest 26 in $61 million Medicare fraud. Doctors, nurses among them Imperial Valley News - Balboa Therapy Center Owners Arrested ... Medical Fraud Carries A Staggering Price Tag : Medicare fraud - estimated now to total about $60 billion ... Local Doctor Faces Whistle-Blower Lawsuit for Medicare Fraud ... A team of federal agents working in New York, Louisiana, Boston, and Houston arrested 32 people
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Mar 14, 3:51?pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@america.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:40:16 -0800 (PST), Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com> >> wrote: >> >At current rates, 540,000 Americans will die over the next 12 years >> Which is 0.18% or 99.82% of Americans NOT DYING "simply because they >> can't afford insurance" over 12 years. >> >New study finds 45,000 Americans die each year for lack of health >> >care... >> Which is 99.985% of Americans NOT DYING "each year for lack of health >> care..." >> We have more important problems than your Communist perversion to have >> someone else pay your bills for you. > We have more important problems: Stopping medical fraud
Then WHY did Buckwheat do NOTHING about that for an ENTIRE YEAR if it is so important?
> Honesty is not the best policy. It is the only policy.
I couldn't agree more!
> Fraud is a way of life in the medical industry.
Actually , Fraud is a way of life IN AMERICA.
And that's because Fraud is a White Collar crime and NOT punished severely.
>Let us prey.
We could eliminate MOST individual Fraud by putting perpetrators in PRISON, we could eliminate MOST organized Fraud by putting Executives in PRISON.
Today, if YOU are in the passenger seat and I'm driving and I tell you I'm gonna drive over to the convenience store and rob it, and during that robbery I MURDER the clerk YOU WILL BE TRIED FOR MURDER.
The Prosecutor merely needs to get the detectives to get you to admit that I told I would rob the store... No OTHER evidence is needed.
We need something similar for White Collar organized Fraud.
You and I both know that clericals DO NOT commit Fraud from their own ideas because they can't profit from it. Medical clericals commit Fraud because they were TOLD to. (And it's NOT in an email, or documented.)
If we put Executives in PRISON we'll see Fraud drop massively.
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com> > wrote:
> >On Mar 14, 3:51?pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@america.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:40:16 -0800 (PST), Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com> > >> wrote: > >> >At current rates, 540,000 Americans will die over the next 12 years > >> Which is 0.18% or 99.82% of Americans NOT DYING "simply because they > >> can't afford insurance" over 12 years. > >> >New study finds 45,000 Americans die each year for lack of health > >> >care... > >> Which is 99.985% of Americans NOT DYING "each year for lack of health > >> care..." > >> We have more important problems than your Communist perversion to have > >> someone else pay your bills for you. > > We have more important problems: Stopping medical fraud
> Then WHY did Buckwheat do NOTHING about that for an ENTIRE YEAR if it > is so important?
> > Honesty is not the best policy. It is the only policy.
> I couldn't agree more!
> > Fraud is a way of life in the medical industry.
> Actually , Fraud is a way of life IN AMERICA.
> And that's because Fraud is a White Collar crime and NOT punished > severely.
> >Let us prey.
> We could eliminate MOST individual Fraud by putting perpetrators in > PRISON, we could eliminate MOST organized Fraud by putting Executives > in PRISON.
> Today, if YOU are in the passenger seat and I'm driving and I tell you > I'm gonna drive over to the convenience store and rob it, and during > that robbery I MURDER the clerk YOU WILL BE TRIED FOR MURDER.
> The Prosecutor merely needs to get the detectives to get you to admit > that I told I would rob the store... No OTHER evidence is needed.
> We need something similar for White Collar organized Fraud.
> You and I both know that clericals DO NOT commit Fraud from their own > ideas because they can't profit from it. Medical clericals commit > Fraud because they were TOLD to. (And it's NOT in an email, or > documented.)
> If we put Executives in PRISON we'll see Fraud drop massively.
RE. " If we put Executives in PRISON we'll see Fraud drop massively."
Bravo Patriot.. You got that right. Hang em High. In the case of the medical fraudsters: Patients are also guilty. They often know that the medical people are charging the insurance companies, especially Medicare and Medicade, for products and services that were not provided. Yet, the patient does not report these gangsters since nothing comes out of the patient's pocket. Also, when people have insurance, they use more health services and subject themselves to more medical corruption.
I recently had a series of tests done at a cardiologists and was charged for services that I knew were not performed. I turned them in to Medicare and they had to return the money since they could not provide proof that these particular services were performed.
The US government says that they have further tightened the screws on doctors and hospitals who have been extracting billions of dollars of dishonest reimbursement claims. You can bet that the medicine men will find a way to continue their crooked ways. "Doctor, heal thyself."
I no longer deal with these crooked bastards. Let's see if my new heart medic does the same thing when I need tested again. I don't trust any of them. I have seen too much fraud. Quack, quack..... --- Raymond.
>On Mar 15, 11:29?am, Patriot Games <Patr...@america.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:21:15 -0700 (PDT), Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com> >> wrote: >> >On Mar 14, 3:51?pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@america.com> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:40:16 -0800 (PST), Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >At current rates, 540,000 Americans will die over the next 12 years >> >> Which is 0.18% or 99.82% of Americans NOT DYING "simply because they >> >> can't afford insurance" over 12 years. >> >> >New study finds 45,000 Americans die each year for lack of health >> >> >care... >> >> Which is 99.985% of Americans NOT DYING "each year for lack of health >> >> care..." >> >> We have more important problems than your Communist perversion to have >> >> someone else pay your bills for you. >> > We have more important problems: Stopping medical fraud >> Then WHY did Buckwheat do NOTHING about that for an ENTIRE YEAR if it >> is so important? >> > Honesty is not the best policy. It is the only policy. >> I couldn't agree more! >> > Fraud is a way of life in the medical industry. >> Actually , Fraud is a way of life IN AMERICA. >> And that's because Fraud is a White Collar crime and NOT punished >> severely. >> >Let us prey. >> We could eliminate MOST individual Fraud by putting perpetrators in >> PRISON, we could eliminate MOST organized Fraud by putting Executives >> in PRISON. >> Today, if YOU are in the passenger seat and I'm driving and I tell you >> I'm gonna drive over to the convenience store and rob it, and during >> that robbery I MURDER the clerk YOU WILL BE TRIED FOR MURDER. >> The Prosecutor merely needs to get the detectives to get you to admit >> that I told I would rob the store... No OTHER evidence is needed. >> We need something similar for White Collar organized Fraud. >> You and I both know that clericals DO NOT commit Fraud from their own >> ideas because they can't profit from it. ?Medical clericals commit >> Fraud because they were TOLD to. ?(And it's NOT in an email, or >> documented.) >> If we put Executives in PRISON we'll see Fraud drop massively. >RE. " If we put Executives in PRISON we'll see Fraud drop massively." >Bravo Patriot.. You got that right. Hang em High. In the case of the >medical fraudsters: Patients are also guilty. They often know that the >medical people are charging the insurance companies, especially >Medicare and Medicade, for products and services that were not >provided. Yet, the patient does not report these gangsters since >nothing comes out of the patient's pocket.
I have not idea if that happens, probably does, but I doubt it's the bigger problem.
>Also, when people have >insurance, they use more health services and subject themselves to >more medical corruption.
In theory the co-pay is supposed to reduce that....
But it doesn't help when pharmaceuticals advertise all sorts of medical maladies on TV then beg you to go see your dotor so you can get the product you saw on TV...
>I recently had a series of tests done at a cardiologists and was >charged for services that I knew were not performed. I turned them in >to Medicare and they had to return the money since they could not >provide proof that these particular services were performed.
You just earned my respect, which is not easy to do!
>The US government says that they have further tightened the screws on >doctors and hospitals who have been extracting billions of dollars of >dishonest reimbursement claims. You can bet that the medicine men will >find a way to continue their crooked ways. "Doctor, heal thyself."
We've always had crooks and we always will. Laws don't prevent crime, they just help us punish criminals. But in this situation we need to create incentive from the top down and that can ONLY be done by putting Executives in prison...
And I should point out that we DO NOT need the Federal gov't do help us with this at all. Since every healthcare insurance company operates separately within a State according to that State's Insurance Commission we merely need to get the State Legislature's to tweak their own State laws. (However, the more the healthcare insurance company charges then more taxes it pays the State......)
>I no longer deal with these crooked bastards. Let's see if my new >heart medic does the same thing when I need tested again. >I don't trust any of them. I have seen too much fraud. Quack, >quack.....
It's just classic crime. Motive and opportunity. Do hospitals (et. al.) have a motive? Sure, MONEY. Do they have the opportunity? Sure, they have a private company, they control the hiring, the paperwork, the processing, etc.